MB Spares Newsletter No.125 May 2012
Well it has been some time since we last sent out a Newsletter, same old
reasons as before, we are just so busy meeting demands for our parts
customer. We have also had another complicating factor that has chewed up
quite a bit of our time in the last 6 months that will be covered below. In
the mean time please enjoy this Newsletter.
M116 and M117 timing chains.
We get a lot of requests to price up the parts required to do a chain
replacement on these so thought I would cover it in an article here. Whilst
there is no listed service interval in all the Mercedes-Benz service
instructions the chains in the M116 and M117 V8's (350, 380, 420, 450, 500
and 560) only have a service life of 100000kms. From here they tend to
stretch and the nylon guides wear and eventually break and fowl the l/h
camshaft sprocket causing terminal damage.
The tell tale sign that it is due is either the 10000km mark since last
replacement or a knocking sound on start up, especially from cold.
Many workshops when they are asked to replace the chain do exactly that,
they just replace the chain, this however is bad news as all that does is
put extra load on all the worn chain guides. We even know of an authorised
Mercedes-Benz dealership that did this, only to have the guides fail
10000kms later with terminal damage to the engine.
Here is a summary of the correct repair process. It is a job that a
reasonably well prepared home DIY mechanic could do.
Put car on hoist, lift 30cms from the ground (OH&S)
Remove alternator and bracket as one assembly, rest on a rag r/h inner
Remove power steering pump and brackets, put on bench.
Remove fan/viscous hub from water pump (not really necessary, but makes
Remove distributor and leads, place on l/h inner shirt. (to get access to
Remove spark plugs (makes engine easy to turn over)
Remove rocker covers.
Put 27mm socket on crankshaft nut
Remove camshaft oiler rail/clips.
Turn engine to TDC, check camshaft timing. (make note if out)
Remove rocker arms, keep in order, super important as they will have wear
in them that matches wear in cam. However if wear is excessive replace cam
Remove timing chain tensioner.
Replace 2x chain guide in l/h head, remove tensioner rail and replace
tensioner guide (or guide lining) and chain guide in r/h head. (this is the
bit where you realise just how lucky you are)
Replace sprockets if required, if more that 200000kms they will be worn
Find chain link or if the original chain grind one pin off to brake chain.
Attach new chain and wind it in. This is ideally a two man job, but can be
done on your own very carefully.
Fit NEW timing chain tensioner.
Wind engine over a few times and check camshaft timing, use offset
woodruff keys if incorrect.
Replace all other parts taken off. This is where the costs can add up. New
power steering filter and oil flush is a good idea. If the distributor cap
rotor and leads are no good now is the time to replace them. Rubber
breather hoses to the rocker covers may need replacing.
If it a d-jet (or AMG spec) engine adjust the valve clearances.
Use NEW camshaft oil rail clips.
Wind it over a few more times to be sure, a good mechanic is a paranoid
Replace spark plugs and start engine.
Warm up and do a full tune, ignition timing will have changed and as a
result so could have the fuel mixture.
If this is a job you are looking at doing phone us for either a quote for
the parts or to do the job in our workshop. You
can contact us here.
Cars for Sale.
To be honest one of the reason I found time to send out this Newsletter was
to promote the cars we have for sale at the moment. Car sales have been
good and steady over the last 12 months with some very good low mileage
cars finding new owners. Infact we almost ran out of cars to put on display
a few months back.
We have long had a policy of not buying cars because we needed stock, but
rather waiting for the right cars to turn up. Many of the cars we get are
trade ins from authorised Mercedes-Benz dealerships. At the moment we have
cars that were traded at Marshalls' and Macintosh's in Sydney and from
Baker Motors in Albury for sale. The point of all this is that we now have
the opposite problem compared to a few months back. We now have had a flood
of great cars offered to us. Here is our current list of cars for sale.
- E200K sedan, 2005 model
- S320 sedan only 95000kms
- CLK320 Sport coupe, only 72000kms
- E230 sedan, one owner with all receipts since
- C200 wagon, great family car. (pictures
- 300E sedan with only 43000kms, a freak car,
looks like it just left the factory.
- 220S sedan 1958 model
- 190Db, rare Diesel Roundie with a documented
- 280SL, LHD, but with a rare manual
- 380SEC coupe
- 230GE rare SWB Gelandewagon
So as you can see a wide range of vehicle to suit almost everyone.
Everything from everyday cars to weekend collector hobby cars. Each one has
its location listed with some here in Canberra and the others with an
associate of ours in Sydney. If you are interested in any information
please feel free to e-mail us or contact the mobile number on the cars
Mercedes-Benz attempt to stop supply.
Here is a brief outline of an additional hassle we have had over the last
six or so months. Some of you will have experienced some delays in the
supply of genuine Mercedes-Benz branded parts from us in the last few
months. This has been caused by escalating activity from Mercedes-Benz in
an attempt to restrict our supply chain to only the authorised dealerships
here in Australia.
Below is a copy of the letter that was sent out to customers who have been
caught up in all this explaining the situation. The very short version of
the letter is that M.B Spares will continue to source Mercedes-Benz branded
parts and offer them for sale here in Australia at realistic prices. But,
that it now takes a little longer.
We are also now stocking more of the faster moving parts in an attempt to
still keep customers cars on the road and avoid delays.
You are receiving this letter as you are either awaiting delivery of
parts on order from our company or have been supplied these parts after an
excessive waiting period. Unfortunately the supply of Genuine Mercedes-Benz
parts at realistic prices is becoming harder and harder. This is the result
of a conscious effort on behalf of Daimler to restructure their parts
M.B Spares is Australia's leading independent importers of Genuine
Mercedes-Benz parts. Our ability to effectively bypass the margins placed
on Genuine Mercedes-Benz parts by Mercedes-Benz Australia/Pacific Pty Ltd
has over the years allowed us to supply parts at very significant discounts
to our customers. At times up to 50% off the dealership recommended price.
In many cases this has been the difference between customers being able to
afford their car and having to sell it.
However, in October 2010 Daimler, the parent company to the
Mercedes-Benz brand, started a push to stop third parties on selling their
genuine parts to independent importers such as ourselves. Their aim is to
force you to deal only with authorised dealerships and to pay the full
Mercedes-Benz authorised price.
As an example lets use this AAM2 module from a 1999 ML430, a vehicle
that is today worth between $10-15000.00. Part number is A163 545 00 16, it
is a module that controls functions such as key recognition so is rather
Mercedes-Benz dealership retail price January 2010 $ 917.00
Mercedes-Benz dealership retail price February 2012 $1308.00
M.B Spares retail price January 2010 $ 585.00
M.B Spares retail price February 2012 $ 795.50
As well as attempting to restrict supply to business's such as ours,
there have also been some significant price rises. Should Mercedes-Benz get
their way, there will be no option for the ML430 owner, but to buy the part
at dealership prices.
M.B Spares has been fighting this problem since October 2010 with
reasonable success. Some of the international resellers have been standing
up for their rights and are still supplying us. However, now Daimler are
threatening them with the loss of their Mercedes-Benz franchises if they
continue to supply us. Needless to say the turnover from our account is not
worth jeopardising their franchise. As a result the number of resellers
that are prepared to deal with us is diminishing and the time frames within
which we can supply parts is growing longer. We have confirmed evidence of
Daimler cancelling orders to resellers when they have found out the parts
will be coming to Australia.
However, M.B Spares will continue to work on resolving this problem. We
will remain proactive in sourcing genuine parts for our customers at
discounted prices. Without going into a very long explanation, the
worldwide system for the distribution of Mercedes-Benz parts is such that
we still have many avenues to work with, they may take longer and in some
cases increase the pricing. But, M.B Spares will get the parts and continue
to compete with the Mercedes-Benz dealerships.
M.B Spares will also continue to offer a large range of OEM (Original
Equipment Manufacturer) parts and quality aftermarket parts. Remember that
Mercedes-Benz do not make over 90% of the parts that their cars are
assembled from. These parts are out sourced to companies like Bosch, Hella,
Elring, ATE, Brembo, Lemforder, ULO and others. We are still importing
without any restrictions parts from many of these manufacturers.
If you would like any more information about your order or have other
parts needs, please feel free to contact us..
John & Sandra Green
Rare Mercedes seized and destroyed.
Here are two links to storied about people who have paid for their dream
car only to lose it..
Gullwing 's destroyed..
Cars for dismantling.
With over 12 months since the last Newsletter there have been a lot of cars
that have been stripped of their good parts and the shells sent off to
Taiwan to be turned into Hyundai's. At the moment we have a flood of W126's
one of which has a perfect condition cream leather interior. Here is a
short list of what else is currently being dismantled.
- W126 280SE, 380SE, 500SEL, 380SEC
- W123 230E x2
- W114 250, 280E
- W210 E230 wagon
- W202, C180, C200 x2
- W203 C180
- W168 A160
- W201 190E
-W124 260E x2
So that's it for now, no promises, but will try for another one in a
I already have some content ready to go including info on Front subframes
for the W107 series and a pictorial report on the Mercedes-Benz Club of
Victoria Concours. I have added a taster picture to the top of this
Newsletter to wet your appetite..